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Ghcjle's avatar

What defies understanding is why people insist on this communality.

If I’m in a situation where I want bodily privacy I want it from everyone. And Im not alone. Many people and children loathe communal changing facilities. People who are shy about their body or feel they will be shamed for some reason like obesity, disability etc - want a secure cubicle. Not something where someone can take pictures over the door etc.

If we did that - just had secure cubicles to protect bodily privacy - we could put a lot of this argument to bed. People could keep their differing views it wouldn’t matter because bodily privacy would be secure for everyone. And it would’ve a lot better than what exists now for people who feel unable to use coal facilities.

Former Dem's avatar

Not really. The public bathroom is the least of our problems. What about sports, shelters, prisons, changing and locker rooms and accolades formerly reserved for actual women?

Nina Wouk's avatar

It's not the least, just one of a list. A private bathroom or changing room with a locking door is a great solution, but it's expensive to put in more than one or two, so public places would end up with long lines of angry people waiting.

Dusty Masterson's avatar

I think that bathrooms/toilets are almost the crunch issue because every woman and girl will have to, at some stage, use a public bathroom/toilet. If that issue is resolved, all the rest ought to come tumbling down.

Dusty

Ghcjle's avatar

It’s really not the case that women feel especially safe around other women, or want to not have bodily privacy from other women. It’s not the case that all women are straight, that all women are not criminal or violent. It’s just a no- brainer - secure individual cubicles. Problem solved.

As for sports i think there are also some things that arent being recognised. In other sports there are weight divisions, handicaps. Just do that. It’s not rocket science.

KittyD's avatar

There are far more well-documented physiological differences between men and women than simply weight and hormonal differences. The no-brainer is that women deserve nothing less than their own category of sport.

Ghcjle's avatar

And there are also plenty of differences between women arent there?

Former Dem's avatar

You seriously think the entire world should set up weight divisions or handicaps in every sport to accommodate males in women's competitions?

Ghcjle's avatar

No. The idea the there are 2 cookie cutters and one stamps out identical men and one stamps out identical women is bunk.

Most sports have divisions in them already for age experience and more. Also disability. It’s not some new big thing is it?

Digital Canary 💪💪🇨🇦🇺🇦🗽's avatar

Who indeed could have foreseen this “gender neutral” toilets outcome? 🤬

Of course we’ll be told “but he isn’t trans” — to which I’ll respond, as always, “I don’t give a fig about identities. It’s about MALES getting such access 🤦‍♂️”

Lisa Simeone's avatar

Thank you once again, Georgia. Have restacked the hell out of this.

M Lucky 🍁's avatar

Students of Rattler's Oxford classes should show up in Friar Tuck costumes, complete with bald caps. "Gender expression" right back at ya, my man.

Nina Wouk's avatar

I think he's right about imposter syndrome; presenting himself as a person with breasts counts.

Dusty Masterson's avatar

Really excellent round up, Georgia, thank you.

One small correction. Harold's Cross School is in the Republic of Ireland so not subject to the Supreme Court ruling. However, what is happening throughout Irish schools re bathrooms is shocking.

Have cross posted

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-graduate

Dusty

NB Hope you like my intro to the update 😊

Crimson's avatar

Our journalists, doctors, teachers, judges, lawyers, coaches, parents, professors, social workers, media and politicians let pornography and voyeurism into our children’s lives; why not the bathroom too?

When hardcore internet porn became normal and universal for children in the early 2000’s - what did everyone do? That’s right, nothing.

Now that the children of the porn are grown up, of course some of them are lurking in bathrooms.

That’s hardly the worst of it.

We have the culture we deserve in my opinion. We should have put these people in their place a long time ago.

Everyone who was part of the “Pornhub is just entertainment” chorus can shut the fuck up now about misogyny and sexual violence, please and thank you. 🫡

You got the world you wanted; congratulations liberals.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2007/05/i-want-my-barely-legal-porn/42505/

retrocycler's avatar

I wonder if Rattler might be trolling the whole gender ideology community… but in which case he hasn’t gone far enough! To really confuse woke TRAs, he needs to identify as a black woman…. Maybe someone will come along soon to take that on.

Madeleine's avatar

"trans woke virus"? Are white people still in 2026 using the word "woke" like this after being told time and again it's a word from Black American vernacular that is, and has always been, about Black issues, Black people, Black social justice, and is not, and never has been, a fucking slur?

You lose all credibility if you cannot educate yourself on "slang" before you decide to incorporate it into your vocabulary, and the fact that you adopted the intentionally skewed definition that was created by racist conservatives in the US rather than actually listening to Black people, the ones who coined the term in the first damn place, speaks so much about your poor character.

The Long Game's avatar

True that people should be careful and study where words come from, but you can mostly blame think tanks - deeply intertwined with government of both sides, ofc - for the theft and misapplication of such black-originated slang.

That said, dudes need to stay tf out of women’s room or keep on getting the mace. Non-negotiable.

Here’s a massive ongoing aggregation of news articles reporting on dudes in dresses assaulting and raping women and children in the women’s room among other places. Yw.

https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens

Lisa Simeone's avatar

Oh, how ridiculous. Language is for everyone.

We all understand what is meant by "woke virus." Especially those of us who are true liberals -- and not woke wankers -- understand.

"Trans" is a pernicious cult. It is destroying people's lives. And the woke virus is profoundly ILliberal. It is destroying free speech.

Now tell me about my "poor character."